This article is an email conversation between the artist Thomas Hirschhorn and the philosopher Jacques Ranciere that took place from December 2009 to February 2010. The images of The Bijlmer Spinoza-Festival', an artwork by Thomas Hirschhorn that occurred in the outskirts of Amsterdam in 2009, portray the levels of engagement by the local participants and the interaction with invited speakers and performers. The interview with Jacques Ranciere addresses the problem of classifying collaborative art projects within the conventional categories of art and politics. It explores the vital function of artistic presence and the possibility of establishing a mode of aesthetic exchange that proceeds from the experience of equality.