At low energies, the excitation of low-frequency packets of normal modes in the Fermi-Pasta- Ulam(FPU) and in the Toda model leads to exponentially localized energy profiles which resemble staircases and are identified by a slope sigma that depends logarithmically on the specific energy epsilon = E/N. Such solutions are found to lie on stable lower-dimensional tori, named q-tori. At higher energies there is a sharp transition of the system's localization profile to a straight-line one, determined by an N-dependent slope of the form sigma similar to (epsilon N)(-d), d > 0. We find that the energy crossover epsilon(c) between the two energy regimes decays as 1/N, which indicates that q-tori disappear in the thermodynamic limit. Furthermore, we focus on the times that such localization profiles are practically frozen and we find that these "stickiness times" can rapidly and accurately distinguish between a power-law and a stretched exponential dependence in 1/epsilon. Copyright (C) EPLA, 2017