Among existing subgrid scale (SGS) models for large-eddy simulation (LES), some are time reversible in the sense that the dynamics evolve backward in time after a transformation u -> -u at every point in space. In practice, reversible subgrid models reduce the numerical stability of the simulations since the effect of the subgrid scales is no longer strictly dissipative. This lack of stability constitutes often a criterion to reject this kind of models. The aim of this paper is to examine whether time-reversibility can constitute a criterion that a subgrid model has to fulfill, or has not to. Thereto, we investigate by direct numerical simulation (DNS) the time dependence of the kinetic energy of the resolved scales when the velocity is reversed in all or part of the length scales of the turbulent flow. These results are compared with results from existing LES subgrid models. It is argued that the criterion of time reversibility to assess subgrid models is incompatible with the main underlying assumption of LES.
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Univ Calif Santa Barbara, Dept Phys, Santa Barbara, CA 93106 USA
Univ Calif Santa Barbara, iQCD, Santa Barbara, CA 93106 USAUniv Calif Santa Barbara, Dept Phys, Santa Barbara, CA 93106 USA
Ahlers, Guenter
Grossmann, Siegfried
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Univ Marburg, Fachbereich Phys, D-35032 Marburg, GermanyUniv Calif Santa Barbara, Dept Phys, Santa Barbara, CA 93106 USA
Grossmann, Siegfried
Lohse, Detlef
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Univ Twente, Phys Fluids Grp, Dept Sci & Technol, JM Burgers Ctr Fluid Dynam, NL-7500 AE Enschede, Netherlands
Univ Twente, Impact Inst, NL-7500 AE Enschede, NetherlandsUniv Calif Santa Barbara, Dept Phys, Santa Barbara, CA 93106 USA
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Johns Hopkins Univ, Baltimore, MD 21218 USA
Los Alamos Natl Lab, Theoret Div CNLS T 5, Los Alamos, NM 87545 USAJohns Hopkins Univ, Baltimore, MD 21218 USA
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Univ Calif Santa Barbara, Dept Phys, Santa Barbara, CA 93106 USA
Univ Calif Santa Barbara, iQCD, Santa Barbara, CA 93106 USAUniv Calif Santa Barbara, Dept Phys, Santa Barbara, CA 93106 USA
Ahlers, Guenter
Grossmann, Siegfried
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Univ Marburg, Fachbereich Phys, D-35032 Marburg, GermanyUniv Calif Santa Barbara, Dept Phys, Santa Barbara, CA 93106 USA
Grossmann, Siegfried
Lohse, Detlef
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Univ Twente, Phys Fluids Grp, Dept Sci & Technol, JM Burgers Ctr Fluid Dynam, NL-7500 AE Enschede, Netherlands
Univ Twente, Impact Inst, NL-7500 AE Enschede, NetherlandsUniv Calif Santa Barbara, Dept Phys, Santa Barbara, CA 93106 USA
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Johns Hopkins Univ, Baltimore, MD 21218 USA
Los Alamos Natl Lab, Theoret Div CNLS T 5, Los Alamos, NM 87545 USAJohns Hopkins Univ, Baltimore, MD 21218 USA